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Shadows... 

Posted Wednesday 30th May 2007 11:59 GMT

The UN photo shows the left wing grounded and the right wing up in the air. The red circled plane has its right wing grounded whereas the black circled plane has its left wing grounded. Does this not suggest the black circled one is the more likely of the two to be a match?

Perhaps not... 

Posted Wednesday 30th May 2007 12:24 GMT

If you look at which wing is damaged, it appears to be the left. Of the two planes in the google image, it is the red one with left wing damage. The other appears to be missing most of it's right wing.

not so much 

Posted Wednesday 30th May 2007 12:26 GMT

the black circled seems to have the right wing damaged. whereas the red circled and UN photo both have the left damaged

2 or 4 Engines? 

Posted Wednesday 30th May 2007 12:49 GMT

Count the number of engines on the planes. The ones one GE are clearly only twin engines, so the plane in the UN photo must be at a different location

Measurements 

Posted Wednesday 30th May 2007 13:03 GMT

According to various sources (including Wikipedia, which is fab for this sort of trivia), an AN-12 is ~33m long.

Using Google Earth's ruler, the top (circled in red) is ~30m long, and the bottom (in black) ~20m, so I'd go with the top one.

Mind, it's also possible that the plane in question isn't in this picture...

Discrepancies 

Posted Wednesday 30th May 2007 13:06 GMT

It's very possible one of the photographs got reversed during printing and reproduction.

Definitely the red one... 

Posted Wednesday 30th May 2007 13:23 GMT

...the black one doesn't have anything left of it's rear wings, on the tail, whereas the one in the witness photo does, as does the red one on Google Earth.

Old pictures 

Posted Wednesday 30th May 2007 13:27 GMT

According to Google Earth's 'coverage' layer, the newest photos of that area are from mid-2006. Assuming that data is kept current anyway...

Look at the damage 

Posted Wednesday 30th May 2007 13:38 GMT

The black ringed aircraft can't be the one in the UN report because it has no tail surfaces. At a guess its been dumped some time ago and is being steadily cannibalised for spares, vandalised or both.

Its possible that the red ringed plane matches the UN photo but its odd that the engines don't show up apart from a black spot where each outer engine should be. I'd say there's a good change it too is a junker and has had its engines removed. The black spots could just about be the scaffolding used to take the engines off and left when the job was done.

Confused? 

Posted Wednesday 30th May 2007 14:57 GMT

Hardly surprising. Look to the lower right of the photo. Yup, black helicopters. Anything else you see is, therefore, your own problem.

Maybe even the black helicopters are fake. Possibly even faked by other, invisible, black helicopters. These may, in turn, have been faked by Flying Saucers (how else did they become invisible stupid?).

TeeCee

The rotor blades on the black helicopters 

Posted Thursday 31st May 2007 15:09 GMT

Clearly visible are the rotor blades, or their shadows. Thus the planes noted don't have any engine nacelles. Maybe they are parked gliders.

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