Symantec pursues $55m copyright damages
Claims copied software might break your computer
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Symantec is seeking $55m in damages against eight US and Canadian firms for selling illegal copies of its software.
It has filed civil lawsuits for trademark and copyright infringement, fraud, unfair competition, counterfeit documentation, trafficking, and false advertising.
Scott Minden, director of legal affairs at Symantec, claimed counterfeit software might "damage users' machines" or steal their identities.
"These software pirates were moving large quantities of counterfeit product and, as a result, numerous unsuspecting users are now at risk for having their information stolen or lost," he said.
The security firm is seeking damages of between $4m and $10m from Californian firms Acortech, mPlus, and Rowcal Distribution; Logical Plus, from New York; SoftwareOutlets.com, and Global Impact, Inc, from Florida; Directron.com, from Texas; and eDirect Software from Canada.
Symantec's "Brand Protection Task Force" bought from the targets suspected counterfeit versions of its Norton SystemWorks, Norton AntiVirus, Norton Internet Security, pcAnywhere, and Symantec AntiVirus Small Business Edition. ®
COMMENTS
How about on OS X?
I work at a helpdesk, and every one of our machines /must/ have AV. Even the Macs. Symantec admits never having found an OS X virus at all, but they still scan everything, with huge impacts on performance. The latest version has no configuration, and no way to disable auto-protect, and that is the only version that works with OS X 10.4. It will scan every single volume when mounted, it will scan a user's home directory every time they log in, and it will stop everything on the computer when it has found a (Windows) virus, until you click the "ok" button.
When it scans a mounted drive, it is normally slow enough that you can actually open the thing and start running programs before the scan starts. Then it doesn't respond to cancel for a while because it isn't threaded nicely. In addition to that, it'll scan its own installer, which I just find comical.
The home directory scan is just way too much burden for login time, when loads of other programs are already trying to auto start. And there are no OS X viruses.
Lots uf our users (used to) use Eudora, which will save every attachment to a directory on recipt of the message. If the virus scanner tried to quarantine the file while Eudora was open, everything on the whole computer would die. I've had to go into single user mode to fix that.
Plus when a user with a Eudora attachments folder is migrated, thye may have loads of Windows viruses laying around from before we had an MTA level virus scanner running. The file copy will pause each and every time it finds a virus (not like the Windows versions, which will just keep adding new discoveries to a list) until you hit the "OK" button. It doesn't want you to make a decision, it just wants to alert you about something. Good thing it waits for user input to keep going
On one migration I got bored halfway through so I started keeping a tally. I recorded well over 200 Windows viruses, which is probably less than 2/3 of the total number. I had to click the button 300 times, so I was required to sit at the computer for the duration of the file copy, instead of going off to do something useful.
We have quite a few of the original Core Solo Mac Minis (512MB of ram too!) which are slow enough by themselves. With auto protect running in the background it can take up to 2 minutes to open a small PDF while the computer isn't doing anything else. Thats just short of insane.
Also I used to run the Coporate / Enterprise Windows versions, but when I saw that it scanned my Winamp settings file every time Winamp accessed it (many times per second) I decided that it needed to go. Especially since it kept turning auto protect on mysteriously after I disabled it.
- Nexox
norton = crap
symantec really need to think about redesigning their systems anyway
it says a minimum of 256mb of ram, but if you put it on a system that low specced it will crawl.
i work for a major ISP, and one of our biggest issues we get from customers is norton. they install it, and reboot the machine, and immediately the firewall will lock out most things. as we all know a depressing amount of people can't find their arse with both hands, a map, and a big glowing arrow pointing at it when it comes to computers, and the norton menus are badly thought out, recursive, and way too convoluted for a normal home user to work with.
about the previous comment
for the poster above:
the latest version of savce 10.1 is not 10.1.5.5000, that one has some known bugs
it is currently 10.1.6.6000
latest version number can always be viewed at:
http://entkb.symantec.com/security/output/n2006050314483048.html
or
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ent-security.nsf/ppfdocs/2006050314483048
even 5000 is not the latest in the 10.1.5 series, there also are some patches published: 10.1.5.5001, and another one 10.1.5.5010

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