By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 15th May 2007 07:56 GMT
The ICO really is impotent, isn't it? I thought they could issue fines as soon as they proved a breach of the data protection act. How naive I was.
So when they find an organisation breaking the DPA on a massive scale they make them say "Sorry. It won't happen again".
When they find that breaches are continuing unabaited they tell them off with "You'd better not do that again".
What next? Send them to the headmaster's office?
Even the excuses are childish. "We process over 100,000,000 transactions". So what? We make over 4,000,000,000 products a year and many of them contain data that is sensitive to the banks! If we leaked any of that we'd be out of business.
The legislation is pointless without effective enforcement.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 15th May 2007 11:06 GMT
I need not worry about any data protection legislation if a major bank can get away with this kind of breach. Sure it might not be good for my business but I just need to sign an undertaking to the ICO not to be a naughty boy again. Now if I knew I would automatically be fined that would be another matter.
By Alexander HanffPosted Tuesday 15th May 2007 11:28 GMT
Stage 1
ICO: "Mr Bank, it has become apparant that there may have been breaches of the DPA within your organisation. Is this going to happen again?
Mr Bank:"Of course not Mr IC."
Stage 2
ICO: "Mr Bank, in our last discussion you promised not to break the law anymore, but we have evidence that suggests you still are. Please stop."
Mr Bank: "Oh I am sorry Mr IC we are so busy counting our profits that we don't have the time to invest any of it into best practise training. But I promise it won't happen again."
Stage 3
*KNOCK KNOCK*
ICO: "Mr Bank, we see you are still breaking the law, do you mind if we come in and have a look around?"
Mr. Bank: "Piss Off"
*SLAM*
Stage 4
ICO: "Sorry you had your identity stolen and your life ruined Mr Customer of Mr Bank. As for the life savings you had stolen and all the credit that was taken out in your name, I can't do anything about that, that would be a different government department. However, I have visited Mr Bank to give him a stern telling off and investigate his company policies with regards to Data Protection, but he wouldn't let me in."
*CLICK*
*BANG*
ICO: "Mr Customer of Mr Bank? ..."
Alternative Scenario:
Youth swears at a machine in the vicinity of a police officer and is immediately issued a fixed penalty notice.
Rather a long way to get to a point, but why is it normal members of the public going about their normal everyday lives, are more accountable to the law than the companies that exploit them?
Yes, the ICO is a completely toothless organisation - I did Subject Access Request to both RBoS and NatWest last year and neither responded within the 40 day deadline as laid down in the rules (and I know for a fact they were doing, and continue to do, this to many other customers). Complaints to the ICO resulted in them simply continually requesting the data to be sent - no enforcement action at all. It took RBoS 4 months and NatWest 7 months to send the data requested.
Absolutely ridiculous, what's the point in having the law there if the "big boys" can flout it without punishment?
By Alexander HanffPosted Tuesday 15th May 2007 12:38 GMT
Currently on the front page of El Reg there is a story about the new EU super biometric database and how it will not be freely available to the police. It states in the article that access will be monitored by each country's relevant data protection agency. In the UK that would be ICO. Does this mean that if the police decide to start abusing the system ICO will tell them off twice and then be able to do nothing?
By regadpellagruPosted Tuesday 15th May 2007 14:07 GMT
"The ICO can audit organisations to ensure their procedures are adequate to protect people's privacy, but must have the permission of the organisation first. "
Ah, rather long sentence to say "useless", then. I'm still hoping the same
applies to the revenue tax dept in France. No way, sadly ...
The day it does, however, guess how many people will pay their
Comments on: Info Commissioner audits HBOS
Powerless #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 15th May 2007 07:56 GMT
If the banks can get away with it... #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 15th May 2007 11:06 GMT
setup? #
By gaz Posted Tuesday 15th May 2007 11:15 GMT
Just Say No... #
By Alexander Hanff Posted Tuesday 15th May 2007 11:28 GMT
Completely toothless #
By Michael Posted Tuesday 15th May 2007 11:30 GMT
Makes you think... #
By Alexander Hanff Posted Tuesday 15th May 2007 12:38 GMT
ICO: useless #
By regadpellagru Posted Tuesday 15th May 2007 14:07 GMT