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Comments on: US forces to block YouTube, MySpace on DoD network

botnets 

Posted Monday 14th May 2007 17:01 GMT

They would have much more bandwidth if they could secure their networks in the first place. DoD networks are riddled with compromised machines running on botnets. Go figure.

Reg humour, how funny 

Posted Monday 14th May 2007 17:23 GMT

Message says, can't use skynet 5 to view videos... its easy to eat up any sort of fat pipe you lay down.

i think your attempt at making the terminator joke failed.

Canon Fodder 

Posted Monday 14th May 2007 17:30 GMT

Heaven forbid that civilian views be aired in the military. I suppose they would try to justify it by saying IT was bad for Morale when such a position itself would be at least Immoral .

botnets 

Posted Monday 14th May 2007 18:43 GMT

Perhaps when the guys at the DoD hear the word Botnet they are thinking of a diffrent Bot?

Legit reason 

Posted Monday 14th May 2007 19:07 GMT

I've been a low-level sysadmin for the U.S. Army - what sort of bandwidth do you all think we can get from equipment we bring in on a truck? There were times when my unit was forced to block webmail and chat sites, because people were sending and receiving too many digital pictures - video was out of the question. I could literally watch my network usage peak out when the guys got open access to the NIPR, and my usage graphs always maxed out at night, when most of the official business quieted down. It is no surprise at all that the Powers That Be have made that a theatre-wide or Army-wide policy.

A lot of deployed units arrange for bandwidth through commercial providers for personal use (even Iraq has local ISPs). The troops that have access to those can still use them for MySpace, YouTube, whatever. Or they can mail home CDs or DVDs they burn on their personal laptops, and get a friend to post them - slower, but still effective. The military networks are supposed to be for government business only, we don't have the money to provide big, thick, high-bandwidth pipes - and seeing a conspiracy to censor the troops in this story requires a dedicated nutcase ready to ignore reality in favor of his pet theory. Too bad there's so many of those...

WHy is this even news 

Posted Tuesday 15th May 2007 01:05 GMT

Um to the people that think this is an conspiracy t hey are only doing what most of corporate America is doing. I mean so they are telling people you can only use their machines for work. Omg so that makes them evil ??

Seems reasonable to me... 

Posted Tuesday 15th May 2007 07:09 GMT

I have to agree with Mark and Kain, after all if you were running a company and recreational use of the systems you provided your staff were infringing on the actual business uses then I can't imagine anybody that wouldn't block or ban the large traffic sites.

Just because it's a Government Department doesn't change that any.

So what...??? 

Posted Tuesday 15th May 2007 09:11 GMT

My access to Youtube, Myspace, etc has been blocked on the company network for years... its common practice, do you see me crying about it?? when on the work network, you work... so tough luck squaddies, try living in the civillian world for once, its not as easy as it seems!!!! :)

Civilian Life.... 

Posted Tuesday 15th May 2007 09:50 GMT

... I think it's still a lot easier than being shot at by angry arabs who are still going through teen angst.

Not fair for soldiers 

Posted Tuesday 15th May 2007 14:03 GMT

i dont think you can compare being in the military with being in a company. how many of those recruited soldiers went into the military of their own free will? i think many were persuaded because they come from very poor areas where there is no work. and how many of those people from poor areas have internet at home? i can imagine not a lot.

so i think that to deprive these soldiers of things like myspace and youtube is not very fair. especially since they are being paid a pittance to risk their lives for the US gvt's petrol thirst (and we all know how much oil riggers get paid out there), i think they should have a right to youtube and myspace. and anyway, i think the is govt has more than enough money to upgrade bandwith and technology with all that military budget.

Are you kidding me? 

Posted Tuesday 15th May 2007 16:18 GMT

Ok, as to "Not fair for soldiers" comment.

- No one made them join the army, there are all kinds of sucky jobs in this world that people do for different reasons. Yes the military is very like a company in alot of respects. And alot of your poverty stricken do not have internet and if they have a computer and it does have a connection, then they might very well be on dialup and pretty much find that alot of those pages have loading problems that make them close to unusable. I know several rural areas where 28k is the top connection speed due to old phone lines.

- Do you work in IT? Do you know what type of struggles and costs large companies have to go through due to trying to maintain bandwith, especially when dealing with remote locations?

- Last of all, I doubt many of us truly know what the military budget is really like, so its hard to just say they have a ton to spend on any one area. You also have to think of where you really think money should go, a couple added comforts or maybe salary increases or more money into technology for defense, intelligence, etc?

There are alot of things to think about. From an IT perspective, most companies are going to monitor their bandwith usage. Personally I'm surprised they even HAD access to those sites on the military network.

Not fair for soldiers 

Posted Tuesday 15th May 2007 17:45 GMT

point taken Are you kidding me?

i still think however that, even though i understand why you think the military is very much like a company, i don't know many who employ people as legally hired killers. in this respect, i feel that the soldiers are there, whether they wish to be or not, and it is but a small thing to let them enjoy something other than rehashing the horrors which they must see every day.

and yes you are right. i do not work in IT. but i know it is a problem that many companies face, both financially and it-wise, when dealing with bandwith. however, when you know that over 75% of internet traffic worlwide is spam, you can hardly put the blame on soldiers going onto youtube.

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